He poʻe hauʻoli mākou i ke ola a hauʻoli mākou i ka paʻakikī o nā heihei paʻakikī a me nā holo.
ʻO wai ʻo Angie Gatica lāua ʻo Russell Sagon?
He kāne māua e noho ana ma ka mokuʻāina ʻo Georgia, ma ka ʻaoʻao hema o ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa. Ua hui mākou i 2 makahiki aku nei a ua hiki ʻole ke hoʻokaʻawale ʻia mai ia manawa. Holo mākou a holo pū i nā manawa a pau. He poʻe hauʻoli mākou i ke ola a ke hoʻāʻo nei mākou e paipai i nā poʻe ʻē aʻe e hana like a hoʻoikaika e hana i kā lākou mea maikaʻi loa i kā lākou hana.
He aha kou makemake e lilo i skyrunner?
Nanea mākou i ka luʻi o nā heihei paʻakikī a me nā holo.
He aha ke ʻano o ka skyrunner iā ʻoe?
Aia ma ke kuahiwi. E hoʻopau i ka wā e uē ai ko mākou kino "haʻalele"! ʻO ke ʻano o ka hana ʻana i nā mea paʻakikī a me ka lanakila ʻana, ʻoiai ʻo ka lanakila ʻana ʻo ia ke ola!
ʻO ka mea e hoʻoikaika a hoʻoikaika iā ʻoe e hele skyrunning a lilo i hapa o ka skyrunning kaiāulu?
ʻO ka noho wale ʻana i ke kuahiwi he mea hoʻoikaika nui, nā manaʻo, nā ululāʻau, nā holoholona a mākou e ʻike nei. ʻO ke kaiāulu o nā kānaka a mākou i ʻike ai. ʻO ka poʻe kōkua kekahi i kekahi a hoʻoikaika kekahi i kekahi i nā mea nui.
Pehea kou manaʻo ma mua, i ka wā a ma hope o ka holo ʻana i ke kuahiwi?
ʻO ke ala ʻana i ke kakahiaka ʻo ia ka luʻu nui loa i nā lā heihei, ʻoiai ʻo wau ke ala maʻamau i ka puka ʻana o ka lā. Akā, he hoʻomaka lohi ka puka ʻana o ka lā i ka lā heihei. I ka wā o ka holo, e pili ana i ka lōʻihi a me ka pahuhopu. ʻO ka holo pōkole (1/2 marathon a i ʻole ka liʻiliʻi) ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi ma nā māmā lohi a luhi loa i ka wikiwiki a i ʻole ka heihei. ʻO nā holo lōʻihi e hele kaʻapuni i luna a i lalo i ka lā. Ma hope iho, e like me kaʻu i ʻōlelo ai, pili ia i ka holo ponoʻī. I kekahi manawa ua luhi a luhi paha, i kekahi manawa me he mea lā hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻomau.
Ma waho o nā ala, e haʻi mai iā mākou e pili ana i kāu hana? Ua hana mau anei ʻoe i kēia hana, a i ʻole ua hoʻololi paha ʻoe i nā ʻoihana?
He mea hana uila au a hana ʻo Angie no ka mea hana huahana hoʻomaʻemaʻe. Ua hana mākou i nā hana like ʻole i ko mākou ola. Ua loaʻa iaʻu kaʻu hui ponoʻī no kahi o 30 mau makahiki i kēia manawa.
Ke komo nei ʻoe i kekahi papahana a ʻoihana paha e pili ana i ka holo?
ʻAʻole.
He aha ke ʻano o ka hebedoma hoʻomaʻamaʻa maʻamau iā ʻoe?
ʻO kā mākou papa hoʻomaʻamaʻa maʻamau he 3 mau pule o ka hana ikaika a ukali ʻia e kahi pule maʻalahi. ʻO nā pule paʻakikī he 35-70 mau mile ma muli o nā heihei e hiki mai ana. Loaʻa maʻamau ka holo manawa a/a i ʻole he holo manawa, hoʻokahi a ʻelua paha holo lōʻihi a ʻo ke koena he holo maʻalahi. ʻO ka yoga, ka hoʻomaʻamaʻa ikaika, ka hoʻomaʻamaʻa, ka hana koʻikoʻi a me nā hoʻomaʻamaʻa hoʻoikaika kino e kāpīpī ʻia i loko o ka pule. Hoʻokahi lā o ka pule he lā hoʻomaha mai ka holo ʻana, me ka yoga a me ka hana koʻikoʻi ma ia lā. Hoʻohui ʻia ka paikikala a me ka piʻi pōhaku ma laila.
Hele mau ʻoe i ke alahele/skyrunning hoʻokahi a me nā mea ʻē aʻe?
ʻO ka maʻamau wale nō, koe wale nō i ka hopena pule ke holo like mākou, ʻoiai i kekahi manawa e kaʻawale mākou a hele i kā mākou mau ala ponoʻī a hui hou i ka hopena. Hana mākou i kekahi mau pūʻulu holo i kēlā me kēia manawa, ma ke ʻano he hui i nā hoaaloha e aʻo ana no kahi heihei paʻakikī.
Makemake ʻoe e holo i nā skyraces, a i ʻole e hana a holo i kāu huakaʻi holo ponoʻī?
ʻelua. Ke hoʻomākaukau nei mākou e hoʻomaka i ka hoʻopaʻa wikiwiki ʻana ma kekahi o nā ala lōʻihi o ko mākou wahi.
Ua maikaʻi mau ʻoe a alakaʻi i kahi ʻano ola kino, a i ʻole ua hoʻomaka hou kēia?
I koʻu wā liʻiliʻi, ikaika loa au i ka piʻi pōhaku a me ka hau. A laila haʻalele wau i kēlā no kekahi mau makahiki. Ua hoʻomaka hou au i ka backpacking i kekahi mau makahiki i hala aku nei a i ka manawa like i holo i kahi ala 5k. ʻO kēia ka mea i alakaʻi i kaʻu hana i kēia manawa. Ua hoʻoikaika kino ʻo Angie no nā makahiki he nui i kēia manawa. Ua hoʻomaka ʻo ia ma ka hale haʻuki a me ka zumba.
Inā ʻo ka mea hope, he aha ka mea i koi ai i ka hoʻololi e lilo i ʻoi aku ka ikaika a hoʻomaka skyrunning?
Ua hoʻomaka wau e holo i kekahi mau heihei ala kūloko a hoʻomaka wau e ʻike i nā ultras. I ka wā o ke aʻo ʻana e pili ana i ka ultras, ua ʻike au i ka haʻuki o skyrunning mai ka heluhelu ʻana e pili ana i nā poʻe e like me Killian Jornet a me Emilie Fosberg. Ua ʻoluʻolu mai iaʻu kekahi mea e pili ana. Ua holo mākou iā Crest no ka Crest ma North Carolina. Ua hana ʻo Angie i ka 10k a ua hana au i ka 50k ʻelua a me ka 10k hoʻokahi. ʻO ka 50k he 12,000 kapuaʻi (3048 mika) o ka loaʻa. He liʻiliʻi nā heihei kokoke iā mākou i kūpono maoli i ka skyraces, akā ua huakaʻi mākou i ke komohana US i ʻelua mau manawa i kēia manawa e holo i nā heihei i ʻāpana o ka US. Skyrunning moʻo. Ua holo au i ka The Rut 50k ma Montana a ua holo mākou ʻelua i ka Sangre de Christo 50k ma Colorado.
Ua ʻike anei ʻoe i nā wā paʻakikī i kou ola āu e makemake ai e kaʻana like? Pehea ka hopena o kēia mau ʻike i kou ola?
Ua oki ʻia kāua a manaʻo wau ʻo ia kekahi o nā mea paʻakikī loa i kou ola. Ua maopopo iaʻu ʻaʻole au e mare hou, ʻo ia a hiki i koʻu hālāwai ʻana me Angie. Ua hoʻopalau māua i kēia manawa a e male ana i ʻAukake. He heihei 50 mile (80k) kā mākou mahina meli ma Utah me 12,000 kapuaʻi (3657 mika) o ka loaʻa a me ke kiʻekiʻe o 10,000 kapuaʻi (3048 mika)!
Ua kōkua ka holo ʻana iā ʻoe i kēia mau wā? Inā pēlā, pehea?
Noʻu, ʻaʻole, ʻaʻole au e holo ana i kēlā manawa. No Angie, ʻae, ʻo ia ka manawa i hoʻomaka ai ʻo ia e holo.
Ke paʻakikī nā mea ma ke ala, he aha kou manaʻo e hoʻomau ai ʻoe?
ʻO ka mea maʻamau, he kamaʻilio kūloko ia, "i ke kahua kōkua aʻe", "i kēlā lāʻau a i ʻole pōhaku wale nō". "Ua like ka manaʻo o kēlā me kēia kanaka." "E hoʻolohi i kou hanu." ʻAe, nā mea like.
Makemake ʻoe e hoʻolohe i ke mele ke holo ʻoe, a hoʻolohe paha i ke ʻano?
ʻO ka hapa nui o ka manawa e hoʻolohe ana i ke ʻano. I kekahi manawa e hoʻolohe au i kahi podcast holo a Spanish paha (ke aʻo nei au i ka Spanish) ma kahi holo maʻalahi ma kahi aʻu i holo ai i hoʻokahi miliona mau manawa. Hoʻolohe ʻo Angie i ke mele ma mua o kaʻu.
Inā makemake ʻoe i ke ʻano, loaʻa iā ʻoe nā ʻōlelo hoʻoikaika e haʻi iā ʻoe iho e hoʻomau iā ʻoe?
ʻO kaʻu i ʻōlelo ai ma mua. Ma ka holo maʻalahi, hoʻokuʻu wale wau i koʻu noʻonoʻo e ʻauwana, pule paha i kekahi.
Inā hoʻolohe ʻoe i ke mele, he aha kāu e hoʻolohe ai no ka hoʻoikaika ʻana?
Hoʻolohe ʻo Angie i ke mele hula i kekahi manawa.
He aha kāu mau heihei lewa/ala?
ʻAʻole au i hana nui i nā heihei lani kūhelu, akā ʻo The Rut ma Montana kaʻu punahele i kēia manawa. Nā hiʻohiʻona nani, ʻāina paʻakikī, kiʻekiʻe kiʻekiʻe. ʻO kekahi o nā hopena maikaʻi loa i loaʻa iā mākou i ka wā i holo ai mākou i ka heihei Chattanooga 100/50 mile. Holo au i ka 100 mile a holo ʻo Angie i ka 50 mile. Ua hoʻomaka wau i ka Pōʻalima i ka wā ʻaina awakea a hoʻomaka ʻo Angie i ke kakahiaka Pōʻaono. Ua loaʻa iā mākou kekahi i kekahi ma kahi o 3 mau mile mai ka hopena a hele pū me ka lima i ka laina hoʻopau!
He aha kāu hoʻolālā heihei no 2021/2022?
Me: Mt. Cheaha 50k, hoʻokūkū
Pacing i kahi hoaaloha ma Georgia Death Race(28 Miles noʻu), ua pau
ʻO Grayson Highlands 50k
Ute 50 mile
Lani i ka Summit 50k
Cloudland Canyon 50 mile
He 10-15k heihei ka Dirty Spokes Race, 6 o na heihei 8
He 10-21k heihei ka Mountain Goat Race Series, 3 heihei a pau
Ke hana nei ʻo Angie i ka heihei Georgia Jewel 50 mile.
He aha nā lāhui ma kāu papa inoa ʻeke?
Hoʻolālā mākou e hana i ka Broken Arrow 50k ma Kaleponi a me ka Whiteface Sky Race 15 mile ma New York. Makemake au e hele i ʻEnelani a holo i ka heihei Scafell Pike Marathon.
Ua loaʻa iā ʻoe kekahi manawa ʻino a weliweli paha skyrunning? Pehea ʻoe i hana ai me lākou?
ʻO kekahi mau ʻino hekili maikaʻi loa i kēia manawa. Holo wale, ho'āʻo e piʻi i kahi kiʻekiʻe haʻahaʻa.
He aha kāu manawa maikaʻi loa i loko skyrunning a no ke aha?
ʻO ka lua o ka manawa aʻu i hoʻopau ai i ka Quest for the Crest 50k he mea poina ia no ka mea ua luhi loa wau i ka hopena a makemake nui au e hoʻomaha, akā ua lanakila kekahi mau kukini ʻē aʻe iaʻu. ʻO ka mea maʻamau, maʻa wau e kekahi poʻe kokoke i ka hopena o kahi heihei a i kēia manawa, ua hoʻoholo wau ʻaʻole wau e ʻae i kēlā hana i kēia manawa a hoʻomaka wau e holo me he 10k! ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu kahi i loaʻa mai ai ka ikaika, akā ua hele au i ka laina hoʻopau a ʻaʻole i hala! Eia kekahi, noʻu, ʻo ka hoʻopau ʻana i ka heihei make ʻo Georgia i ʻelua mau makahiki i hala aku nei he hana nui. 74 mile a me 35,000 kapuaʻi o ka hoʻololi kiʻekiʻe (119k , 10,668 mika).
He aha kāu mau moeʻuhane nui no ka wā e hiki mai ana, ma skyrunning a ma ke ola?
Makemake mākou e holo i ka Georgia Appalachian Trail (80+ mau mile) i ka hopena pule. Makemake nō hoʻi mākou e kaʻapuni a puni ka ʻāina a holo a holo wale i nā mea a mākou e ʻike ai me he mea lā he huakaʻi nui! Ke kakali nei mākou i ko mākou male ʻana a me ka hoʻolilo ʻana i nā makahiki hauʻoli he nui ma waho, me nā hoaaloha, a hauʻoli wale i ka hana a ke Akua!
He aha kāu ʻōlelo aʻo maikaʻi loa no nā skyrunners ʻē aʻe?
Ke paʻakikī nā mea, mai haʻalele. Paʻakikī. Hiki iā ʻoe ke hana i nā mea ʻoi aku ma mua o kou manaʻo! Holo. Inā ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke holo, e hele wāwae. Inā ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke hele, kolo. Inā ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke kolo, e moe ma kou ʻaoʻao a ʻōwili!
Russell, mahalo iā ʻoe no ka haʻi ʻana i kāu moʻolelo a me Angie me mākou! Pōmaikaʻi me nā heihei a hoʻomau i ka holo!
/Snezana Djuric